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Old 08-26-2018, 07:08 AM   #1  
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The Fusion ZRi tires on my S2000 have lots of tread left but at 9 years old the rubber is getting pretty hard. No cracks but the back end comes loose and I’m afraid if I ever had to stop quickly it would be game over. I was looking at Michelin Pilot Super Sport but then I saw the new Michelin Pilot Sport
4S and read a lot of good things about it. Better in every category and “in a different league in the wet”. Has anyone had any experience with these?

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I would be interested in this too. The Super Sports are going to be my next set, but if Michelin has something better ...
The last set were Potenza RE11s, which were awesome, but as it always goes the back wore out and when I went to replace, found the RE11s are no more.
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I would recommend either Bridgestone RE71R's or S-04s if you're running Summer only extreme or Max performance or Dunlop Direzza Ziii.Extreme Performance Summer tires I run the Direzza's and they are excellent for traction and bite..I don't drive my cars in crappy weather (anytime the temp is below 40 degrees, ice or snow) and have never had all-seasons so if that is what you're looking for, I'm absolutely no help.
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This is a summer performance tire too. This review is what sold me

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Old 08-26-2018, 05:35 PM   #5  
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While having zero experience with them, it's obvious that the new Pilot Sports are probably a great tire. And true to Michelin form, they're really expensive.
If you're still not 100% sold on them, I can tell you the Direzza ZIII is a phenomenal tire, wet and dry, and you will absolutely not be disappointed.

I did notice the Pilots have a slightly better wear rating, and they're a bit lighter as well. If you don't mind spending the extra money (about $120 bucks on Tire Rack), why not give them a try.
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I still have some connections with Honda and Michelin so a set of the Pilot Sport S4 will cost me about $950 Canadian. I’m going to look into what I can get a set of the Direzza’s for.
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Now that I’ve decided on new tires I’m kind of paranoid about flat spots after storing the car for 5 or 6 months. Any ideas?
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I doubt you'd have a problem in only 5-6 months, especially with modern tires. I think over-inflating them to 40-45 psi would make me feel a little better; it seems a lot of people do that.
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Both my S2K's sit from late October to March and I've never had a problem with flat-spotting. I have had a problem not being able to drive them due to the weather, however.
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Old 08-28-2018, 05:29 AM   #10  
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I’ve never had a problem either and the little thumping on the first drive goes away in five minutes. I started thinking about stands but then there’s the question about putting it on the lift points or loading the suspension by supporting it that way. Thanks for the input I’m going to order and install them in September.

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I store from Oct 31 to May 1, weather permitting. Sometimes a couple of weeks either way. I do all my bed time maintenance the last day of the year with an oil change, then to get away from the flat spots, a trip to the tire shop to inflate to 50 psi. Then put it to bed in the garage on carpet.
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I like the carpet idea! I’m going to do that. There are flat spot stands but they are like $300!
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I'm curious....what's the carpet supposed to do??
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I'm curious....what's the carpet supposed to do??
Keep the floor in your garage clean . (actually it's to make the user feel like he's doing something to protect the tires but, other than a bit of insulation, it really doesn't do much).
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Actually carpet is quite nice. Just vacuum. Keeps dirt out of the house and it is very nice to lay down on working on your cars.
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I went to my dealership and got the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S put on yesterday and what a difference! Quiet, smooth ride and held like glue even in the rain! The tech told me they each only took 1/2 oz of weight to balance up! Alignment was bang on even after a year of driving.
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Good to hear ... my Pilot 4S are on order. Should get them installed this week.
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Had Costco put them on yesterday. Had $70 Michelin sale plus $1 (instead of $15/tire) installation at Costco for a savings of $130. Sweet!
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Old 09-11-2018, 08:03 PM   #19  
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Hey Cosmo...what do you think of them?
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Hey Cosmo...what do you think of them?
Well, so far I only have 9 miles on them. I drove straight from Costco to home. However I did immediately notice some differences. On the short freeway run it seemed like the power steering was on steroids. So little effort to make the car move. If I looked it one direction, the car went there. The last couple of miles was on a one/two lane twisty road with some nice curves. I have practiced for years with the S on them. I did a 90 degree turn from one road to another at 35mph and it just did it. No big deal at all. No drama. Further up, a decreasing radius turn (with increased bank) that you can take it to the limit, was attacked with vigor. With the Super Sports you could feel the edge of traction (it was great) but these just kept on turning no matter what with WOT. It was as if the tires were saying: "Is this all you got? C'mon, let me have it!"

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Got my 4S on today at noon and just took them for a short run. They feel great, nice and smooth, and little road noise. No chance to push them really, but in one tight turn around a traffic circle while accelerating they hugged the road really well. They replaced the original Bridgestones from 2006, so improved response is to be expected.

Running 32 psi front and back. What you guys running?

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Old 09-12-2018, 02:41 PM   #23  
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I took them for their first dry spin today and the first thing I noticed is how much better the ride quality is. Little bumps that used to make the car rattle have all but stopped and the ride is smooth for an S2000. Very little road noise and like Cosmo says the steering feels way more responsive. Totally happy with this purchase and I just have to find somewhere is push it a bit!
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