Book says get new bolts for alignment. Do you?

Old 05-22-2014, 04:23 PM
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Book says get new bolts for alignment. Do you?

Got new tires and want to get an alignment. The manual (2nd edition Service Manual shop copy 2000-2009) page 18-8 and beyond, says to replace the self-locking cam nut on rear of lower arm with a new one. The diagram says "A-Replace " (points to part). A note says "Always use a new self-locking cam nut with a new one, and lightly tighten it" It goes on to describe the procedure ending with tightening to specified torque-58lbf-ft.

More instructions for the rest of the wheels all include a replacement for self locking nuts (on front of lower arm) and the rear wheel self locking nut on the control arm.

Self locking cam nuts are $20 and the other ones are $3-$5, so it would be close to $50 for parts plus alignment.

Two Honda dealers were surprised that replacement instruction was in there. They said they have never replaced anything during an alignment except for damage.

So..... do I follow the book here or just blow it off and get an alignment and go on my way? This would not be for the track.
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Old 05-22-2014, 06:52 PM
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What is peace of mind worth Cos?? However, if it is my money, I would not bother replacing it.
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Old 05-22-2014, 07:08 PM
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Years ago, I bought the NTB unlimited alignment package for about $300. I've had at least 20 (and maybe up to 40) alignments done swapping from the UK spec for street to my own spec for the track. I have never replaced any component and never had an issue.
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:30 PM
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Thanks guys.
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Old 05-23-2014, 06:40 AM
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Same here, I have done a bunch of alignments on my past S2K never changed the bolts. I'm sure some torque specs wouldn't hurt.
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Old 05-24-2014, 06:19 AM
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We did 250 alignments last month and only change damaged components.
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