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Old 02-15-2013, 12:09 PM
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alfa is coming back

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/alfa...ears-1C8379906

probably wont make it off the lot without it breaking down
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:17 PM
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^^Aren't Alfas watered down Ferraris or is that Maserati? I think Fiat owns Alfa.


yep, didn't read it through. So when someone buys that Chrysler 200, they can console themselves it's the same company that makes a Ferrari.

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the strategy is to target young affluent customers who do not have a clue about the history of alpha and fiat. well now that's a strategy sell 'em to the sorta rich and sorta dumb. limited market i suppose
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the strategy is to target young affluent customers who do not have a clue about the history of alpha and fiat. well now that's a strategy sell 'em to the sorta rich and sorta dumb. limited market i suppose
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At $75k to $100k each, I don't think the "sorta rich" qualify.
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Old 02-15-2013, 04:50 PM
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^^Aren't Alfas watered down Ferraris or is that Maserati? I think Fiat owns Alfa.
i think maserati's are the watered down ferrari's.

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At $75k to $100k each, I don't think the "sorta rich" qualify.
yup, and for that kind of $ there are PLENTY of other cars i'd get instead
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At datt price, all'ey godda'doo'z sell one'n'ey'll be a pasta-fest in Milan'add'll last'a week.
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:00 PM
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i think maserati's are the watered down ferrari's.
As to Maserati and Ferrari, they compete in two different market segments. That is precisely why Ferrari bought Maserati.

Maserati typically are 4-passenger GT cars while Ferrari are exotic sports cars.

Until the current FF, the only other true 4-passenger car that Ferrari made was the Mondial and Mondial t. Frankly, the Modial version sucked. The Mondial t saved the reputation of the "type" for the short period that it was produced.

So each is exactly what it is intended to be, not "watered down".
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LTWU View Post
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/alfa...ears-1C8379906

probably wont make it off the lot without it breaking down
The new Dodge Dart is based on an Alfa platform.
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:29 PM
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As to Maserati and Ferrari, they compete in two different market segments. That is precisely why Ferrari bought Maserati.
yes but after ferrari bought maserati, maserati were seen as ferrari's dollar menu (wish i could take credit for that but that's a quote from this month's Car and Driver). they would have ferrari engines in the sedans and coupes, and a lot of ferrari engineering and always seen as ferrari's awkward step-child. thus glenn's perception that they were watered down ferrari's. i had the same perception, not that i wouldn't love to own one mind you. i was somewhat tempted not too long ago because i had seen some maserati convertibles that had 30k miles go for $40k but maintenance issues quickly shot down that idea.

they are, however, desiring a big change. they want to go from 6300 vehicles sold last year to 50,000 in a few years. the new quattroporte is supposed to some dodge parts in it (including the nav system). so instead of being a watered down ferrari, maserati will be an upgraded chrysler.

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The new Dodge Dart is based on an Alfa platform.
interesting you mention that, they've done a great job with advertising and i was tempted to go down and try one out. one of my patients works at the local dealership and he told me not to bother, said it was basically a fiat in american clothes. but fiat/alfa, tomato/toma........ uhhh apparently that colloquial saying doesn't have the desired effect typed
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i was somewhat tempted not too long ago because i had seen some maserati convertibles that had 30k miles go for $40k but maintenance issues quickly shot down that idea.
So was I. My approach was different. I thought that I'd get the wife a nice Quattroporte for $40K, maintain it myself until it died and part the dead one out. Ergo....no high maintenance costs.

Problem.........she refused to give up her Accord. Gotta love that gal!!!!!
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Problem.........she refused to give up her Accord. Gotta love that gal!!!!!
hahaha definitely not a problem in my book lucky guy!!!
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They needed to wait a least a generation to overcome they're rep.

40 yrs ago Fiat and Alfa were high revving, nimble handling exciting cars.

As fragile as kites
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Fiat and Alfa were high revving, nimble handling exciting cars.
Worthy Edit IMHO

"Fiat and Alfa were BEAUTIFUL, high revving, nimble handling exciting cars."

Someday I will own both a GTV and a Type 4 Spyder.
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