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Old 06-04-2018, 05:02 PM
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New member here, and first post, so here goes....

Honda/Acura life-long loyalist. Current stable:
2006 CRV AWD
2006 Accord SE Sedan
2011 CRV AWD
2013 ZDX
2017 MDX AWD TECH

The owner of one of my local Honda/Acura-only service, repair, and body shop facilities owns a 2001 S2000. He is the original owner. I've seen and known the car for years. We've talked about it. On Friday when picking up the 2006 Accord after service, he said it is time and if I want it, it is mine, at the end of August/beginning of September:

One owner
Unmolested (not tuned, not tweaked, no accidents)
Driven May - October in Nebraska
Garaged Nov - April in Nebraska
Just north of 16,000 miles now, closer to 17,000 or 17,500 by the time of the deal
$20,000 (non-negotiable)

To the S2000 SME's here, I want the car, badly. I believe $20,000 is fair, given the condition, history, mileage, and current owner.
Seeking advice, opinions, or simply snide remarks!!!

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I agree that the price is fair for that kind od condition/mileage. Go for it!!!
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I don't want to overpay, well, because I've done that once or twice before in a car deal....But, I am proceeding. Friday the 2011 CRV goes in for service and the S2000 will be the loaner I get for the day. I am looking forward to that test drive.
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Over the years I have always asked if I could take the S2000 as my loaner for the day when one of the Hondas was in for service. Now that he's ready to sell, he offered to let me take it Friday. I am excited to say the least.
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Once you take it for a drive the decision will be easy. With 17K that’s an amazing find!
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Just have to convince my better half of 28 years that this is no ordinary car or car deal. And yeah, never thought he would part with it, but he is and I am first in line. It is mine if I desire...
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So..….there is a downside to the completely unmolested nature of this 2001 AP1: The tires are original, so post-haste come April of 2019, tires will be required.
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So...there is a downside to the completely unmolested nature of this 2001 AP1: The tires are original, so post-haste come April of 2019, tires will be required.
You also need to change all fluids, Shin-Etsu all the rubber, put a couple of coats of Zaino on it, use 303 on the roof, replace all filters, oil (use only the recommended Honda oil filter, not after-market, no matter what anyone says), cabin and air. Get the rear wheel axle nuts torqued to the correct specs, and then you should be ready to drive it.
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Thanks for the check list. Appreciated. The owner of the car is the owner of an independent Honda/Acura-only service/maintenance/repair center, parts depot, and body shop. It is his personal car that he's driven in the spring and summer and stored in the fall and winter since new. Yet you make a valid point about checking for these things and I do appreciate it. Don't assume is the message here and I get it. Thanks again.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:24 PM
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Drove it to work and then back to the owner. It is still a blur to be honest. Lots of traffic on 680. Amazed that I was finally driving it...I did not reach VTEC I don't think. I was nervous. I can say that if I buy it, I am putting tires on it the next day. Here are some pics. I need a reason to NOT buy it, cuz right now I'm not finding one...


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There is no reason not to buy it. The price is reasonable and it hasn't been altered. I was straight forward with my wife when I was considering making the purchase and said it is a seasonal toy. Now she loves is as much as I do.
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Originally Posted by ZigZag View Post
There is no reason not to buy it. The price is reasonable and it hasn't been altered. I was straight forward with my wife when I was considering making the purchase and said it is a seasonal toy. Now she loves is as much as I do.
I just made my wife read this. Thanks Zag...
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Very similiar to what happened with me and my wife. I had been watching a 2009 with 30K miles, Rio Yellow, Phoenix area car, one owner, stock. Perfect. Favorite color. I knew I would never see another one.

Wife was surprised, perhaps, but now it is our favorite get away car. I love it. We also have the TLs, MDX, Accords.

Do it! You will go to your grave regretting it if you do not.
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Old 06-30-2018, 08:19 AM
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Thanks folks. The transaction will take place early July...When it is in my garage, I'll let you know. Really appreciate the feedback.
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It's definitely a nice car. Once you buy it (or maybe even before), read up a bit on AP1 valve retainers. It's probably one of the most important issues for AP1 owners to be aware of.

Also, you may want to inspect the convertible top frame, to check for the sharp spots. On a car with such low miles, you might not see any wear spots yet. If you find them, you can probably file them down before they cause the well-known problem.
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The well-known problem? Not so well-known by me, so any details would be appreciated. The car is owned by a mechanic/body-shop guy so I will ask him about the valve retainers.
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Originally Posted by HondaOwnerForLife View Post
The well-known problem? Not so well-known by me, so any details would be appreciated. The car is owned by a mechanic/body-shop guy so I will ask him about the valve retainers.
There's a sharp spot on one of the top bows that causes a tear in the roof. It may not be apparent at the moment but over time will tear the roof
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As for the valve retainers, I'm not sure if they're all eventually prone to cracking with age, or, if they only crack from a mechanical over-rev. I never had to worry about the issue on my AP2, but from what I understand, it's something that can result in an engine needing to be rebuilt. Like I said, it's worth reading up on. Plenty of information in this forum about it, or just Google it.

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Okay, so in about 5 minutes of reading, I think I've learned that AP1 valve retainers will NOT crack with mileage or wear & tear alone. It takes an over-rev to damage them. Hopefully your mechanic never had a mis-shift.

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I know this question should be in the wheel and tire section, but there seems more "traffic" here. Will these wheels fit/work on the 2001 S2K? They are stock wheels for the MY04:

https://www.hubcaphaven.com/c/411/ho...eels_rims.html

I think they'll fit/work fine, but gotta ask the experts...

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Originally Posted by HondaOwnerForLife View Post
I know this question should be in the wheel and tire section, but there seems more "traffic" here. Will these wheels fit/work on the 2001 S2K? They are stock wheels for the MY04:

https://www.hubcaphaven.com/c/411/ho...eels_rims.html

I think they'll fit/work fine, but gotta ask the experts...

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Yep, you'll have to buy tires as well (another lengthy subject) because the AP-2's are 17" wheels but they fit fine, I run 2008 CR wheels on my AP-1 with no problem.
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Yep, you'll have to buy tires as well (another lengthy subject) because the AP-2's are 17" wheels but they fit fine, I run 2008 CR wheels on my AP-1 with no problem.
Thanks KGF, and yes tires are another story altogether, and pretty sure I'll go with 225/45/17 in the front and 255/40/17 in the rear. Since the 2001 needs tires badly (It has the originals on it), I wanted to up the diameter to 17 from 16 now as that gives me more tire options.

Friday July 27th is the day I take possession...
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Friday July 27th is the day I take possession...
I'm sure you can't wait!!
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I'm sure you can't wait!!
True, but does give me time to finalize the $$$ aspect, coordinate the purchase of the MY04 AP2 wheels and tires, and schedule the time on the 27th with the shop that will install the wheels/tires. I am going directly to my tire/wheel shop after taking possession. Plus, gives me time to properly say goodbye to the ZDX......until October. I do love the ZDX. Yeah, it's a "thick" Acura, a jack of all trades and master of none, but when the VTEC on the 3.7 kicks in, man the sound and feel is pretty damned cool....
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I am all set. Found reconditioned/remanufactured OEM 17 X 7 and 17 X 8.5 wheels. I pick her up on the 27th, then to tire guy for wheels/tires after I take possession.
Went with Fire Hawk Indy 500's: 225/45 FR and 255/40 RR.

I am slowly getting excited....trying to temper it though as it is still two weeks away...
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I am pretty sure I have a BIG problem with wheel fitment...

The OEM wheels I purchased are those for the 2004 - 2007 AP2. I wanted 17 X 7 and 17 x 8.5 OEM wheels, BUT the bolt pattern is 4.5 inch on these wheels, and it is 110 mm on the 2000 - 2003 OEM wheel. Part number for the wheels I purchased: ALY63872 and ALY63873

I am pretty unhappy with my judgement at this point...
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The bolt pattern is the same from 1999 to 2009. i run 2008 CR (AP-2) wheels on my '03 (AP-1). You're fine, the wheels you bought fit the car. Incidentally, 110 mm = 4.330709 inches. You might want to take a refresher course in the Metric system.

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Thanks for the clarification and the "jab"....I suppose I deserved the latter...
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Thanks for the clarification and the "jab"....I suppose I deserved the latter...
It's that old 10 seconds of research thing..(I'm an engineer, that's how we do things )
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And while we're on your case....the oem rear tires are 245/40/17 for ap2 (2004 to 2009). The CR has rear tires at 255/40/17 (same rear wheel size). You should be fine again, but ....... just sayin'
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And while we're on your case....the oem rear tires are 245/40/17 for ap2 (2004 to 2009). The CR has rear tires at 255/40/17 (same rear wheel size). You should be fine again, but ....... just sayin'
Thanks...and I like your signature...

At this time next week I should be home, tires & wheels installed, registered and plated, vacuuming and cleaning the interior and treating the leather seats. When my better half arrives home then, we'll be hitting the backroads of NW Omaha to see what this car can do...
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When my better half arrives home then, we'll be hitting the backroads of NW Omaha to see what this car can do...
Spend some time doing nice normal, boring driving on secondary roads (highways are not much of a challenge (specially in mid-America) and learn how the car reacts to steering and throttle input. Do something silly (or stupid) and you can find yourself going sideways very quickly. AP-1's have a tendency to snap-oversteer which means the rear end likes to swap places with the front and that can lead to dyspepsia and the world renown "oh ****" reaction.
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Thank you. Though this is my first time on this specific horse, this is not my first rodeo....But point taken. To your earlier point about "10 seconds" of research, that I've done with respect to the handling of this car, and I fully appreciate that "reading" about it is no substitute for behind the wheel experience. Yeah, "Oh ****" is no fun, been there, don't wanna be there ever again.
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Really appreciate the advice provided. I do the deed tomorrow morning. Truth be told, my wife and I will be married 29 years on Saturday, and this is our 30th anniversary present for us both, just a year early, as the original owner decided this is the year to say good-bye to his S-car. He's really taken care of it and rarely let anyone drive it except his wife and even she told me that she does not drive it hardly at all because she cared not for the "3rd degree" when she returned it home. I checked with him one day ago, and his words to me were:

She will be so ready for you Friday, and I am already regretting the decision and missing her, but it is time. I'll be able to focus on my next baby, whatever that will be. The saving grace here is that I've known you for years, you've spent quite a lot of money with me, and I know she'll be well-cared for, so I am good. On Friday, she is yours.

I'll post a pic or two after wheels and tires are installed, but after that, I'll be occupied for a while with MY S-car...

But I will be a regular here, as I am at Acurazine, so you are forewarned...

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Now that you have the car, you might also consider checking out S2KI.com and S2KCA.com. All S2000 sites (quelle surprise ). Welcome to the club.
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