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Old 10-09-2011, 10:21 AM
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Buying Recommendation

I am looking for my first S2000. Have owned Alfa's and Saabs in the recent past. Found two that I am considering and interested in what your thoughts are. I have used the search and got a lot of useful information about differences between the various years etc

The two cars I have found are roughly the same price and overall cosmetic condition.

2005 Sebring Silver, 32k miles, tires/brakes decent but will need to be replaced soon. At a Honda dealer with a 6 month/6k warranty

2006 Formula Red, 62k miles. New tires (Toyo), new brakes, new top. Also at a Honda dealer, comes with the Honda Certified warranty, 1year 12k miles plus 2 years 38k left on the 7 year/100k powertrain warranty.

Given that the purchase price is similar, I am leaning towards the 2006, but curious what the thoughts are on buying the lower mileage car.

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Old 10-09-2011, 03:41 PM
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IF the condition is the same and both cars look equally well cared for, I'd take the lower miles. You can always put on a new set of tires...but it's hard to roll back 30k worth of miles! Brake pads are cheap and easy to replace and tires wear out fast on these cars. For me it's all about mileage and CONDITION. A new top might be worth it though. That's a pretty large expense if the '05 is going to need one soon.
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Old 10-09-2011, 04:13 PM
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what Honda dealer is selling the 05 ?

I saw a similar car recently, 'n I'm just wondering.

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Old 10-09-2011, 05:13 PM
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The 05 is at Galpin Honda in Mission Hills CA. It did have a patch on the top, but otherwise the top looked pretty good. No other obvious issues, no popping out of gear on the test drive, clutch seemed ok, no leaks and the fluids seemed clear

As far as price, the 05 is about 1k more asking price, but that is kind of in the noise and does not really have much bearing on what the final OTD ends up

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Old 10-09-2011, 05:19 PM
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Older model with lower milage. Im the happy owner of a 2002 S with under 18000 miles
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Old 10-10-2011, 01:48 AM
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I would be cautious of the top. If the tops are equal condition I would go with the lower miles easy. If not I would weigh it out, maybe still end up with the one with lower miles.
I personally like the seats from 05 but that's just me being picky.
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Old 10-10-2011, 05:35 AM
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The '06 model, new brakes,tires and top with the warranty. Unlike your previous makes you've owned the Honda holds up far better and the slight mileage difference is insignificant.
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Thanks, looks like the '05 has been sold. Decision may have gotten a bit easier. Get the '06 or keep looking

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Old 10-10-2011, 07:05 PM
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Old 10-10-2011, 07:13 PM
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:31 PM
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When I was looking, the only red (NFR) I saw was marked up beyond blue book. A new top is worth quite a bit, assuming they installed it correctly, and one with patch probably means it may wear down the line.

As you have a warranty, the miles won't be a big deal if driven and taken care of properly (check records).
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:54 PM
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One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the improvements to the 06 year...namely drive by wire and traction control.

I specifically sought out an 06 so that's the one that I would recommend.

Tops and tires are expensive so its nice to have them done already...so are brakes. A longer warranty is also nice to have...just in case.

Lastly red (2nd best color) is much better than boring old silver

Having been an alfa fan I don't know what you are going to do with yourself when your car doesn't break down every week, hehe
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Old 10-11-2011, 03:15 PM
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Get an AP1...
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The Honda reliability, maintenance costs and parts availability will be a welcome change from both the Alfa and Saab experience. Although up until they completely died, both my Alfa's were actually not bad from a reliability standpoint

I thought about an AP1, but this will be my DD and the lower redline and slightly more torque might be nice on a day to day basis.

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Get an AP1...

yep.
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Old 10-11-2011, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Len_A View Post

I thought about an AP1, but this will be my DD and the lower redline and slightly more torque might be nice on a day to day basis.

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Nope. Ya still want an Ap1. Decision made.
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:02 PM
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Nope. Ya still want an Ap1. Decision made.
Think about it. What other manufacturer "softens" their car as it gets newer?
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by slostwok View Post
Think about it. What other manufacturer "softens" their car as it gets newer?
I know, right?!
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Well the faster of the two will certainly be the Sebring Silver.
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Originally Posted by slostwok View Post
Think about it. What other manufacturer "softens" their car as it gets newer?
The exception being the CR
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vanishing point . . . . i just looked at your sig and you have 3 . . . 1,2,3 CR's?!? more power to ya
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vanishing point . . . . i just looked at your sig and you have 3 . . . 1,2,3 CR's?!? more power to ya
I know! Save some for the rest of us, lol!
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vanishing point . . . . i just looked at your sig and you have 3 . . . 1,2,3 CR's?!? more power to ya
Thanks, I'm searching for the perfect GPW.
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Thanks, I'm searching for the perfect GPW.
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Originally Posted by Vanishing Point View Post
Thanks, I'm searching for the perfect GPW.
I know this has nothing to do with the thread, but how do you decide which one to drive when you are staring at the keys on the little hooks in your kitchen (okay, I took some poetic license there. I don't know where you store your keys, but it made for a cool image of a guy standing there in front of the keys, pondering)? I mean, do you wake up thinking, "Today I shall drive the yellow CR?" Or does it come to you over coffee and toast. "Yep, looks like a blue day to me today!" Or do you decide based on which one hasn't been driven in awhile? Or is it just a matter of which one happens to be most convenient and isn't blocked in by other cars in the driveway/garage?
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Good point, Murph. That's probably more decision making than I'm capable of in the morning!!!
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I've got a red '06 that just turned over 60k. The improvements in that model year, along with the warranty and new top would definitely push me towards the later model AP2. Wear really isn't an issue with this car, and I've owned 6 Alfas over the years, so I have a lot of experience with unreliability and this car just doesn't break. Plus, red is well known to be the fastest color.
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I wish I had to make those kind of decisions, it would probably drive me insane though. I'd probably make one my DD, one my track car, and one my spare.
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:19 PM
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Getting this thread back on track, buy an AP1. Think about it, the ap1 and ap2 I would say are equally reliable. But... the AP1 was Honda's first, most hardcore car that commemorated their 50 years of building cars. That being said I would suggest an 02 or 03 because they are still hardcore, but have the glass window and a couple door speakers (among other minor changes). If you want more torque because you think it makes more sense as a daily driver, that is not a good reason to pick one over the other (both are torqueless). On a final note, there is nothing cooler than doing over 60 in second gear, knowing you are rolling in Honda's best and first attempt at reinventing 50 years of automotive production. Did I mention 9k redline? Either way I am sure you will enjoy either one you pick, guess which one I own?
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So, I'm still looking, have not found the right one yet. I drove a couple of AP1's and like them a bit more than the AP2, although the difference is pretty small and I would be happy with either I think. S2000's seem to run a fair bit more in SoCal than other places, which makes sense since we can drive year round.

How much premium would folks pay for lower miles?

I found a couple of AP1's with around 45-75k miles for around $14-16k, a really low mile (12k) 2003 for $19k and a couple with around 100k miles for $11k. I know these are all asking prices and not selling prices. Would folks pay $3-$4K for 30 or 40k less miles or does it not really matter too much on these cars

For example, I found a nice 2003 with 100k miles for $11.5k that has new clutch, tires and top, is it worth an extra 3-4 thousand to get one with 50-60k miles if the car seems solid.

Sorry to ask so many questions, but there are a lot of choices in SoCal right now

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Old 10-25-2011, 03:48 PM
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For example, I found a nice 2003 with 100k miles for $11.5k that has new clutch, tires and top, is it worth an extra 3-4 thousand to get one with 50-60k miles if the car seems solid.

If you drive 50k per year, no.

If you drive 10k per year, yes.

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