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Next S2k will have a little Porsche 911 GT3 in it?

Old 07-28-2016, 10:12 AM
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Next S2k will have a little Porsche 911 GT3 in it?

Found this interesting piece.....


http://www.motortrend.com/news/porsc...a-leaves-note/
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Old 08-01-2016, 07:14 AM
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Old 08-02-2016, 05:35 AM
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The bigger part of the story there is really the reason Honda brought it in: a Porsche service recall. And........not just any recall, a problem with connecting rods!!!!! Holy sh&^*T, ya pay 125K + for what is supposed to be a high performance car and it has a connecting rod issue? For those not into Porsche this is not the first big issue with the 911. Before I bought my 07 S2k I looked at 911's pretty close and wondered why prices were so low on 98-06 models. Seems they was a serious (actually two) design mistake when they went from the old air cooled to the water cooled engine. The intermediate shaft (IMS) bearing were spec'ed waaaaay too small resulting in IMS bearing failure of even easily driven cars around the 50k mile point. The failure resulted in not only the engine needing to be torn down but in cars driven hard the bearing would wobble out the seat in the case resulting in having to replace the cases. Normal rebuild runs between 6-8,000 bucks. What is worse is even once it became a well known problem and that it was truly a design fault, Porsche refused to fix the problem if the car was out of warranty, pissing off hundreds of owner. I remember reading a post by a guy in Connecticut who was so incensed he was bad mouthing Porsche in every post he wrote. He had bout 6 brand new 911's from the same dealer over a25 year period and was refused warranty coverage when his new 911 had IMS failure.


So, lets hope Honda does not dip too deep into Porsche technology for whatever it comes up with. Then again, Honda isn't perfect either considering the transmission bearing problems in 91/92 NSX's.
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My 09 Carrera S has the new DFI engine , 25% less parts than the previous engine. No IMS . Porsche continues to use the same DFI engine to date
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Old 08-03-2016, 02:00 PM
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My 09 Carrera S has the new DFI engine , 25% less parts than the previous engine. No IMS . Porsche continues to use the same DFI engine to date
Neil as I understand it Porsche tried a fix on the 07-08 911's which was better than the original design but still not a perfect fix until they finally cured the problem in the 09 model year.


There was another issue with the early 911 that had to do with plugging up of oil return passages for oil draining back from the head to the crankcase. Seems that cars the most susceptible were the ones driven easier than normal. So, damned if you do, damned if you don't.


Helps to explain the price insanity on air cooled Porsches.
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Old 08-04-2016, 11:19 AM
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I've been on the Rennlist Porsche forums for about 6 yrs so I've read a lot and come to learn also.


The 997.1 Carrera ran between 05-08 these were the problematic IMS issues. Saying that there are thousands of these cars without any problems. And usually changed the IMS bearing while doing a new clutch.


When buying a 100k + car its always good to do PSI at a Porsche dealer to evaluate the condition and wear. Also a over rev detail can be had. A new PDK transmission for my car is 25k engine new create about 30K +


The new GT3 RS is priced at some dealers at 40k over list price and their getting it ?
One 911 R was for sale at 1m + crazy numbers. Fantastic cars tho
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Neil, did the Boxster / Cayman engines have either of the 911 problems??
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I don't think so. They were smaller engines than the 3.6 / 3.8 but now the new boxster line one model has the 3.8 Carrera engine in it.


Porsche is very clever not to have a model intimidate or out perform its iconic 911. In 2016 they brought out the new 911 ( 911.2 Carrera ) now this has the smaller but turbo engine, all the 911's in the past have been natural inspired engines except the turbo of course, but going forward all turbo engines which may bleed into the Cayman and Boxster. The way of the world I guess. But most die hards like the original N/A engines like in the GT3 and GT3RS , GTS etc
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In the "I want to kick myself" dept. when I was looking for a new ride in early 13 I found a 96 911, Guards red with the tan interior, full turbo body kit, 6 speed, with 42k miles and the dealership wanted 39,500 for it. I offered them 37 for it and they turned it down. That car is probably worth 75-80 now. Damn.............
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