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Old 09-24-2010, 09:42 AM
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S2000 HELP!

hey s2000 owners.. ok i had my s2000 for about 4 months noww... i can drive stick decently.. but i can never get this car to go smoothly in first gear.. if you can please tell me how you guys get this thing going smoothly from the lights in first gear wat rpm is best ? i get frustrated..somtimes i can do it smoothly wen i think i got the hang of it. other times it will jerk little bit ..ughghh
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Old 09-24-2010, 09:56 AM
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I fear you may have an issue with the car iac er somethin ive driven dozens of man.tranny's and apart from a saturn sl1 or a p1 gen volvo ive yet to see such smooth engagement the gearbox was one of the main reasons I went for the s2000 above my other pics.
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:08 AM
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idk man.. maybe im not doing it rightt
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:19 AM
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Not sure what you are asking. ARe you talking about moving the gear selector to first gear not being smooth? or the driving in first not being smooth?
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:29 AM
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bro, like in releasing the clutch in first.. how fast or slow ,, howmuch gas to apply?
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:39 AM
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Release it slow. Think of the clutch as a volume **** on a stereo. You're using the clutch to modulate the amount of power from the engine in first gear. Release it too fast and you'll buck and jerk. Having said that, don't ride the clutch either. If you smell burning clutch, then you're releasing it too slow.
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:40 AM
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I always rev it up to 3000rpm, give or take. Let the clutch out a lot slower than when shifting.
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:44 AM
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thanks for the tips guys..will go and try that i normally reved it just to 1500 nd somtimes it works somtimes maybe im too fast on clutch
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Old 09-24-2010, 12:12 PM
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thanks for the tips guys..will go and try that i normally reved it just to 1500 nd somtimes it works somtimes maybe im too fast on clutch
You need to get the feel of a smoth movement in the clutch pedal. I have tought many people how to drive a manaul and most of the time it's moving too fast on the clutch wtihout enough gas. Try to picture that the clutch and the gas work opposite each other and give as much gas movement as you give clutch movement.

Go to an empty parking lot, like a church or school, (But go in the evening or on Saturday), when no one is around, practice a bunch of stops and starts.
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Old 09-24-2010, 06:45 PM
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It's a little harder to learn because of a light flywheel. Keep it over 2000 rpm and when feel the clutch engaging start feeding more gas to it.

practice man practice.
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:37 PM
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Up hill practice might give you better result! : )
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Old 09-24-2010, 11:57 PM
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i think the above are great sets of advice....i myself, will go to 2500 rpm or 3000 just to avoid heat bogging (my s2000 is my DD) ..but in general, this car is more picky than others..my friends (only 2 have ever driven and i wasnt comfortable in the passenger seat :P) drive the car, even though all they have had are manual transmission, they have a little bit of rough starts and transitions to gears...

the best way to explain it is that the car is picky...and doesnt accept bs
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Old 09-25-2010, 06:36 PM
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thanks guys, the 2000 to 3000 rpm seemed to helpp alott... i just have to practice a bit more for smooth first gearr!
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Old 10-05-2010, 02:25 PM
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I found the same situation. Gradually you learn to drive a little more aggressively. It's like crossing the street in Italy. They give you one chance so you just have to barge in with both feet working. In traffic I often avoid first gear, if I have a little forward momentum or am pointed down hill. They're not going to let me zoom anyway. Can I say zoom on a Honda site?
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Old 10-16-2010, 07:40 AM
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rev it to like 1500-2000 rpm then let the clutch out slowly SLowwwly then add a little bit of throttle.
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Old 10-16-2010, 12:14 PM
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rev to 9k and dump the clutch
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Nah man im kidding but 1500-2000Rpms sound about right , you dont wanna rev too high either
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Old 10-18-2010, 02:12 PM
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I had a bit of trouble getting the hang of this when I started out a few months ago also. I found the above advice to be good. Start releasing the clutch as your giving it gas, 2500rpm is a nice point to be at, when your about halfway up on the clutch you should be moving, once your at 5-10 mph release the clutch completely and your rolling with no jerking. I found that I would be releasing the clutch without my wheels rolling at a fast enough clip, which is gonna buck you around and you'll have to apologize to your passenger.
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Old 10-18-2010, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mostwanted5abi View Post
thanks guys, the 2000 to 3000 rpm seemed to helpp alott... i just have to practice a bit more for smooth first gearr!
this is your answer.
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Old 10-18-2010, 05:04 PM
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With practice you'll get it down to about 12-1500...shouldn't need much more than that to get'er moving (on level ground).

This car is driveable using only one foot, if done carefully enough.
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Old 10-20-2010, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by s2kap12000 View Post
rev it to like 1500-2000 rpm then let the clutch out slowly SLowwwly then add a little bit of throttle.
I agree here. I never understood people reving to 3k, I mean I guess you can, but really what you want to do is about 1.5k-2k rpm. Any more than 2k is unneccesary! This is from my experience~

-One exception is when your on a hill, you might want to rev it a lil bit higher (perhaps 2k-3k)

-Everything comes down to courage and practice+experience would get you there!
-Dont worry about the cars behind you, just breathe and take your time. If you rush things then you will prob giv too much gas and/or disengage clutch too fast causing you to STALL or make JERKY movements on the car.
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Old 10-20-2010, 09:46 PM
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rev to 9k and dump the clutch
Thats what I do and she loves it
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Old 10-25-2010, 06:45 PM
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I had a similar problem. Maybe try changing your fluid and going into 1st with some revs.
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:58 AM
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yea i find that sometimes my S bucks like a bull in first while idling along xD
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:57 PM
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I've driven just about nothing but manuals for last 35 years and I've never found an easier setup that on this vehicle. What a delight! My gears hook up just shy of half way up and push just beyond this as I give a little touch of gas and bump the RPMs just a bit and feather the clutch. If you push the clutch to the floor, you've got some play until you engage. Pop it too fast without enough gas and you'll stall.

You've got to find the pedal distance required to release the gears without going too far beyond. Feel, baby, feel!
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:40 PM
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Not talking clutch here, but Car and Driver called the gearbox in the S, the best of any car regardless of price. Can't remember the issue, but I think it was a year when the S made C & D's 10 best cars. High praise, indeed!
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:53 PM
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I've driven a lot of vehicles in my lifetime and this is by far the best gearbox of any of them.
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:01 PM
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Hey guys sorry to thread hijack but when i shift from 1st to second it always seems to grind a little bit. every other gear is fine though.
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:05 PM
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Hey guys sorry to thread hijack but when i shift from 1st to second it always seems to grind a little bit. every other gear is fine though.
What year is your S, how many miles and did you buy it new or used? 2nd gear usually takes a lot of abuse from high rpm shifts. Sometimes it can be a little clunky when shifting at low rpm or when cold.
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:09 PM
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MY05 47k miiles, used. I bought it in August and didn't replace fluids, i'm thinking maybe doing all the fluids should help?
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Originally Posted by tehboxzor View Post
MY05 47k miiles, used. I bought it in August and didn't replace fluids, i'm thinking maybe doing all the fluids should help?
If you use the proper fluids. It sure can't hurt.
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:20 PM
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Won't hurt. Tranny, brake and clutch.
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:20 PM
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Phil, you mind reader!
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Old 11-10-2010, 12:10 PM
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read on another thread on here might be the second gear synchro going bad? but changing tranny fluid today and oil and brake tomorrow.
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changed the MTF to the honda one. Drove it for a bit and its still there but its 3x less rough. does it need to settle in or something?
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something that you just cant think about

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Old 11-13-2010, 09:37 AM
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Hey guys sorry to thread hijack but when i shift from 1st to second it always seems to grind a little bit. every other gear is fine though.
My '05 is clunky from 1-2 as well, especially when cold. I'm still hopeful that changing the gearbox MTF will at least improve it.
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