Turbo or Supercharger??

Old 11-15-2006, 04:15 PM
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Turbo and Supercharger
Yeah...there the same... like Missionary and Doggy are the same... as in a priest and a puppy. what you think i mean sex? no i mean a priest and a puppy.

Again, more performance = less space in engine bay?
do you need that space? is that space more important than HP?
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Old 11-15-2006, 04:25 PM
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turbo sucks in air and compress them to make more power.

superchargers are pulleys,

two different things, not the same

supercharger looks nicer
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Old 11-15-2006, 05:28 PM
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um. ya ummm ok. i was just stating that they were close to the same size. since others had mentioned they werent. here is my other car does it look like im all that worried about space in the s2000 that engine is shoe horned in there. And mugen just a little info for ya about forced induction. They both suck air in they both take that air and cram it into the intake so they both do the exact same thing the difference is one spins because its attached to pulleys and the other is done with exhaust gasses
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Old 11-15-2006, 05:49 PM
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You can be boosted AND pretty in my opinion:
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Old 11-15-2006, 05:57 PM
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agreed I think any form of boost under the hood looks sexy. Personally i buy cars to drive them.
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Old 11-15-2006, 06:01 PM
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it takes in air to spin the pulley, it does compress but not alot,

i was refering to the engine compressing not the supercharger compression
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Old 11-16-2006, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mugens2k View Post
it takes in air to spin the pulley, it does compress but not alot,

i was refering to the engine compressing not the supercharger compression
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hehe I chose not to go in to detail about supercharging and turbo charging because of that.
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Old 11-16-2006, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mugens2k View Post
it takes in air to spin the pulley
Silly me, I thought it was the belt spinning the SC pulley. The belt that was being driven by the crank pulley. I didn't realize the air was spinning it. What was I thinking?
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Old 11-16-2006, 03:24 PM
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yeah boy yeah
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gomarlins3 View Post
Silly me, I thought it was the belt spinning the SC pulley. The belt that was being driven by the crank pulley. I didn't realize the air was spinning it. What was I thinking?
You were thinking about the hot exhaust gases leaving the engine after combustion are routed directly to the turbine wheel side of the turbocharger to make it rotate. Oops, did I say turbo? I'm sorry.
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Old 11-17-2006, 07:28 AM
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Well why did you say hot gasses? What is the benefit of the gasses being hot? Is this why its best to make a compact equal length manifold that wont disipate heat well for turbos? Lol Someone is learning something from this useless thread damnit lets get some facts going on up in here
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Old 11-17-2006, 08:18 AM
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Here are the facts for this topic. I hope this will settle all curiosities.

Howstuffworks "How Turbochargers Work"

SuperchargersOnline.com :: Supercharger Basics
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A video link of turbo and supercharge s2k combat. I think the video is taken from the turbo s2k.

Video - Supercharged S2000 vs TurboCharged S2000

Video - S/C S2000 vs Turbo S2000 part 2
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by karnito View Post
You were thinking about the hot exhaust gases leaving the engine after combustion are routed directly to the turbine wheel side of the turbocharger to make it rotate. Oops, did I say turbo? I'm sorry.

It was a joke about a SC, but thanks.
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Old 11-17-2006, 01:04 PM
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I dont think the video was in the turbocharged car when they were close you heard all kindsa wastegate when they were far apart you couldnt hear it.
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Originally Posted by gomarlins3 View Post
It was a joke about a SC, but thanks.
I knew you did I was poking fun at mugen.
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Old 11-17-2006, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by s2000isu View Post
I dont think the video was in the turbocharged car when they were close you heard all kindsa wastegate when they were far apart you couldnt hear it.
True that. I wished they would have stoped and filmed the engines before rolled all out on the road like that. hmmm.
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Originally Posted by karnito View Post
I knew you did I was poking fun at mugen.

Got it. No worries.
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damm i guess this other thread i started is going good lolz. lates
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Old 11-18-2006, 06:16 AM
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You are right. I believe we are making fun of you in here as well.
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hahaha. That's funny. hahahahaha
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Old 11-19-2006, 03:24 PM
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yeah thaTS koo as long as you know that your funny looking
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Old 11-19-2006, 03:34 PM
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lol you guys are awesome
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yeah thaTS koo as long as you know that your funny looking
I'm sorry, have we ever met? Didn't think so. Have you ever seen a picture of me? Didn't think so there either. Do you still not know how to type or spell? Hey, you got one right, nice job.
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Old 11-21-2006, 09:33 PM
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come on guys; don't get personal here. We are all here to waste time and RELAX. So get the stick out of you assses and upshift already; squash it.
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Old 11-22-2006, 06:49 AM
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hey marlins. saw you on s2kca. pecetrn; like any thread. it's going to start really strong then slowly die out as time goes. But you are right; we are here for the car But we'd had a little fun with mugen though
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Old 11-22-2006, 09:25 AM
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whats the maximum amount of HP sombody got out of a stock engine with forced induction?

and has anybody ever heard of a S2000 beating a Ferrari? i think its theoretically possible
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are you being serious? i could make a festiva smoke one
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:47 PM
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what i meant to ask was has anybody seen it happen? specifically a 360 or a F430
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Old 12-21-2006, 01:11 PM
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in what way quarter mile or handling?
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:31 PM
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wow, i really dont think many of the people in here know ANYTHING about motors or cars or the potential of S2000's or any car for the matter... brand names dont mean anything like dude said... you can take a festiva and rape lambo and ferrari's
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i already knew it its possible, everybody knows its possible, but what i was asking was has anybody seen it happen? not if u can make a festiva toast a ferrari, im sure you are fully capable of doing that, plus i wasnt talking about a drag race, i meant on a track with turns
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Old 02-26-2007, 06:47 AM
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Well... i know its possible in a drag race, never seen it though, and i Have seen an S2 beat a lambo anf ferrari, go to youtube and look at some of the videos, i would go get the link... but im too lazy... its an actualy automotive tv show so its def legit.
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Wow, ok. Turbocharger = uses SPENT exhaust gas to compress air and force it into your intake tract. I mean its probably pretty hot, but thats irrelevant. The exhaust has to spool up, hence the turbo lag.

Supercharger = is belt driven, does exactly the same thing, but since its belt driven its always "on" so to speak, there is no spooling.

The benefits of a turbo are that it can usually produce higher PSI, depending on the size of the turbo, which means more power. The benefits of the supercharger is its always on tap, since its belt driven. Both do exactly the same thing, compress the air coming into your engine therefore making your engine (a giant vacuum) work more efficiently.

I'm new to this car, so im not sure which is more efficient but man, whatever that black S2k had in the video that was posted, I want!
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Old 03-05-2007, 01:49 PM
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Supercharging vs Turbocharging

Hey all,

Does anyone have torque and hp gains on the SC vs TC quandry? I know Comptec states 340 hp at the flywheel in their adverts. Has anyone of you lads put your SC'd or TC'd S2K's on the dyno to really see what your gains are?

Also the only SC I have been able to locate is the Comptec or Vortech Snail type SC. Does noone make a traditional roots-type blower for our auto's

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No traditional roots type blower available in a kit for our car just yet. A few people have tried to make one, but none have so far come to market. Jackson Racing are working on one at the moment.

Typically the roots type blower does not provide enough at the top of the rev range.
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I think i've decided on turbo as my choice for boost. Anyone know what the best kit, and anyone know of any good wrench shops in southern cali that will install?
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blow off valve in a supercharge huh didnt know that. im new to the mod scene. So where can u get these blow off valves?
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