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Old 07-26-2018, 01:21 PM   #1  
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Question for those that have traction control

I am searching for an S2000 and I have a question for those of you with traction control. Has this been a life saver/car saver for you folks? I currently have a VW R with it and it only has kicked in on slipper conditions in the winter (with snow tires). As I search for a S2000 I'm just wondering how important it is to hold out for one with this feature. I've already decided on a second generation car. The S2000 would be a dry weather driving car for me.

My kids may or may not drive this car (with me in it) and I am more concerned about them than me. I've been around enough to stay away from pushing things all the way to the edge.

Thanks in advance for the guidance.
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Old 07-26-2018, 04:30 PM   #2  
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So you're referring to the Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) on 06+ cars, and it does much more than simple traction control.

In my experience of both driving and reading about the car, the S2000 often exhibits "snap-oversteer" when pushed to the limit. It grips like crazy, but lets go with little or no warning into a tailspin.
The VSA can be turned off, but it has saved my butt on more than one occasion.

That said, I wouldn't let a lack of VSA be a deal-breaker if you happen to find the right car from 04 or 05. With a good set of high-performance summer tires, you can push an S2000 pretty darn hard with confidence. You really have to drive like a crazed ape to get it to break loose, but if it does, you could be in some serious trouble if it happens in the wrong place.

This could be especially important with inexperienced or teenaged drivers!
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Thank you for the info. While I am in the car I can keep my early 20's kids away from the edge. What worries me is when/if I let one go for a drive without me.

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Thank you for the info. What worries me is when/if I let one go for a drive without me.
Simple. Don't let them go for a drive without you.

I also agree with Jim21680. I have had my S now for 7 years (2009) and the VSA has kicked in several times, usually on damp surfaces when I was adding power on a turn. I like it a lot as I have not tracked the car and not as experienced in pushing this car to the limit consistently.
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Thank you both for the advice. After talking it though with my wife I'm going to wait till I find one with VSA. This will be my first convertible and anything that adds safety makes sense to me.
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I wish my 2005 had it. If I had to do it all over again I’d go 2006 and up. Good luck!
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Old 07-28-2018, 08:24 AM   #7  
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The VSA is certainly a good feature and having the option to disengage it is an even better one, as many cars you either cannot or not completely. When on, it does behave rather oddly when all four wheels are off the ground.
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I bought an '06 because of the changes to the ECU, including VSA. I have to admit, if I plan on any "spirited" driving, I turn it off.
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I bought an '06 because of the changes to the ECU, including VSA. I have to admit, if I plan on any "spirited" driving, I turn it off.
Why? It's not obtrusive. I've done many Dragon (and other spirited) drives and I leave it on. I've had it come on one time in nine years of drives. Hit your apexes correctly, apply power in the (roughly) correct spots and you never know it's there.

Unless you've had a fair amount of seat time in rear wheel drive cars with a tendency to snap oversteer, you could find yourself in a rather nasty situation. We lost an S2k on a Dragon drive two years ago to a "driver" who thought he knew what he was doing and turned the VSA off. He decided to do a bit of off-roading down the mountain side. Results? One burned S2K, one very shaken "driver" and a lesson to some to NEVER overdrive your abilities.

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I've owned & driven rear wheel drive cars since I got my drivers license about 44 years ago. That includes two RX-7's. I did drive a Honda Accord Coupe for a couple of years when my kids were little, but I sold it to buy an RX-8. I've never liked the way "Traction Control" systems engage. For normal driving or on wet roads, I leave VSA on.
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Jay Leno said it best; something like "Driving is like sex.....most guys think they're much better at it than they actually are".

I like to think of myself as a good driver, especially when driving the S2000. But I'll leave that arrogance at home. Unless I'm on a racetrack, the VSA stays on

Honda did a nice job with it though, I'll agree that it's rarely intrusive.
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