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Old 06-03-2018, 11:51 AM   #1  
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CV Boots and Bearings

I occasionally see threads on someone dealing with bearing issues (almost always the rear) and problems replacing the stock (hollow) axles with off brand solid ones. According to Billman, nothing can beat OEM hollow axles for endurance and no vibration issues.

Last week, visiting my friendly Honda dealer parts guy, I enquired about the axle, CV boot, bearing, and cup availability. For now it is all good. Most parts are around $400 for spot repairs or spend $850 (not including a 20% nice guy discount) for the complete assembled OEM axle, boots, bearings, cup: the entire enchilada.

Do you think it is worthwhile to grab one ( I have heard the right one is the one that usually goes) and save for a rainy day? How many have had to replace a CV boot, bearing, or performed the famous "cup swap" to solve vibration under right turn acceleration?
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I occasionally see threads on someone dealing with bearing issues (almost always the rear) and problems replacing the stock (hollow) axles with off brand solid ones. According to Billman, nothing can beat OEM hollow axles for endurance and no vibration issues.

Last week, visiting my friendly Honda dealer parts guy, I enquired about the axle, CV boot, bearing, and cup availability. For now it is all good. Most parts are around $400 for spot repairs or spend $850 (not including a 20% nice guy discount) for the complete assembled OEM axle, boots, bearings, cup: the entire enchilada.

Do you think it is worthwhile to grab one ( I have heard the right one is the one that usually goes) and save for a rainy day? How many have had to replace a CV boot, bearing, or performed the famous "cup swap" to solve vibration under right turn acceleration?
The most recent work Billman has done to my car was the axle cup swap. I had vibration on acceleration but it is all gone now.
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Switch, where is Billman's shop located? For some reason I always thought he was somewhere on the West Coast.
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Switch, where is Billman's shop located? For some reason I always thought he was somewhere on the West Coast.
He's on Long Island, NY. Go to the S2KI Metro NY forum and you can make an appointment or ask him questions about the car.

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^^^^What he said.^^^^
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Switch, how many miles did you have when you did the cup swap?
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Thanks! Like Cosmo, my 08 still hasn't exhibited any problems with the driveline yet....but it's good to know one of the best S2000 mechanics on Earth is a short drive away.
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Switch, how many miles did you have when you did the cup swap?
About 115K.
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Thanks! Like Cosmo, my 08 still hasn't exhibited any problems with the driveline yet....but it's good to know one of the best S2000 mechanics on Earth is a short drive away.
You might want to have the valves adjusted. Drive by wire cars seem to need valves adjusted more than accelerator cable for some reason.
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I adjusted the valves myself, somewhere around 80,000 miles (I'm at 106 now). Like a few others, I honestly had trouble determining the difference between loose and tight. It just seemed too precise to accurately measure.
So, I solved that issue by adjusting them all, using the method of setting them moderately tight against the widest gap specification....then pulling the spacer out. It seemed to work nicely, and I think I got them all within the same range.
It's purred like a kitten since then....I will forever love this car and it's engine. That's a job that took some time to learn the first time, but would be much, much easier on any subsequent attempts.

One thing that kind bothers me though is the TCT. Mine has never made those bad sounds that are so well known. I've had other S2K owners and two different mechanics listen, and they say the same.
Should I still replace it anyway? I really don't see a need, but maybe I should.

The S2000 is a great car to work on...most of it is simple enough. But I may have Billman replace my clutch, and purge the coolant, whenever that time comes. Those are two jobs that I'm simply not interested in attempting myself.
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At 40K miles on my 09, I did some emailing with Billman about the TCT. He convinced me that as I had no symptoms of TCT fluttering noise then, it would be a matter of time. I went ahead and ordered one of his GenX and took 10 minutes to install. Now with 65K miles, it has been out of mind, out of sight. I just don't worry about it. Other brands have had a mixed bag of reviews but I have never seen a single negative review of Billman's unit.

The other item to perform is the rear axle re-torque. You need to unstake the nut, take it to 180 ftlbs and then go another 60 degrees as I recall. Should check the thread on that. When I did mine the nut was almost loose.
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The axle click!!! Yes, I definitely had that issue at some point in my car's life, but I can't even remember when. I did the same, and haven't even thought about it since. Amazing how the mind forgets, lol.
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This thread has really brought back some memories of my years with the S2K. I purchased my car new in June 2008, and these pictures were taken October 1st, 2010, so I'm guessing I was around 25-30,000 miles at this point.
What a shame!!!! I'm still glad I didn't contact my insurance though, as they would've likely totaled it. Honda had already ceased production at that point, so there would be no buying another one new.

Looking back, I'm very happy with the decision I made.


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This thread has really brought back some memories of my years with the S2K. I purchased my car new in June 2008, and these pictures were taken October 1st, 2010, so I'm guessing I was around 25-30,000 miles at this point.
What a shame!!!! I'm still glad I didn't contact my insurance though, as they would've likely totaled it. Honda had already ceased production at that point, so there would be no buying another one new.

Looking back, I'm very happy with the decision I made.


OMG I remember that!!!
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Looks like a personal version of Servpro: Like it never happened!

Man, there must have been a lot of work. Relubing everything that water got into: bearings, diff, trans, OMG!

How did you do it?
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Changing the fluid in the diff & trans were obviously simple enough. That's been done several times since.
I remember asking about water getting into the cv boots, but a few members said that "should" be okay. If the rubber boot was intact (especially on a fairly new car), it's unlikely that water could get inside.
How true is that? I'm still not sure, and if the lifetime of those joints was impacted by that day, I wouldn't be surprised. I think I would've noticed symptoms of failure by this point, but nothing yet....

As for the interior, the seats were out for days, and the carpet was mostly pulled out to clean and dry. The foam sound insulation under the carpet has been gone ever since. It was acting like a sponge, and absolutely had to go.

What I'm really surprised at (and relieved by) is that no electrical gremlins have ever popped up, mainly with the airbag sensors under the seats. If I had parked in the opposite direction, nose-down, I think this story would've gone completely different.
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