Changing the transmission fluid

Old 07-09-2012, 05:36 AM
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Changing the transmission fluid

Hi All. I'm thinking about changing my transmission fluid for the first time. Onlu recently got the car so I don't know what has been done in terms of service. It's doing about 68000 mls. A friend recommended Royal Purple syncromax. Any opinions? How much fluid does the S2000 gear box require?
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Carguy View Post
Hi All. I'm thinking about changing my transmission fluid for the first time. Onlu recently got the car so I don't know what has been done in terms of service. It's doing about 68000 mls. A friend recommended Royal Purple syncromax. Any opinions? How much fluid does the S2000 gear box require?
that purple stuff is probably ok but i think you are just throwing money away. i have had good service with the honda mtf. pretty cheap too at http://www.handa-accessories.com/

the transmission holds just under 2 quarts. easy job. i have never understood why the dealership charges so much just to drain and fill the trans with $10 worth of fluid.

royal purple synchro is $22 a quart on e-bay. lotta profit built into that one. must have some gold in it.

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Old 07-09-2012, 06:38 AM
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Thanks for the advice. I'm just new to the car and want to treat her well but if you've had good experiences with the Honda MTF then I'd definitely give that some serious thought. Didn't realize that Royal Purple made gold
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i was happy with the honda mtf, but then switched to the royal purple syncromax. WOW, worth every penny. it's going in my CR and my wrx soon
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:44 PM
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i was happy with the honda mtf, but then switched to the royal purple syncromax. WOW, worth every penny. it's going in my CR and my wrx soon
i actually agree with LTWU. you can really tell a difference with royal purple syncromax. i'll never switch back to the cheap honda mtf. once you go purple, you cant go back, haha ha ha! the fluid is cheap, compared to the labor, so just make the switch. It's like, why would you use conventional motor oil when you can use synthetic?
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If you are going to dump that much money in trans fluid, go with Amsoil.
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Old 07-20-2012, 07:11 PM
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Honestly.. Go with the Pennzoil SyncroMesh. Find it at your local auto parts store. $6 a qt. I've ran the Royal Purple... Amsoil... HONDA MTF... The Pennzoil SyncroMesh works better than the Honda MTF(This is coming from a Honda technician for 8yrs now) Works the same as the Royal Purple and Amsoil( Minus the big $$$ ).

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Old 07-21-2012, 08:35 PM
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Thanks for the recommendations. Already bought the royal stuff and will be making the switch tomorrow.
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cool let us know what you think. didn't notice the difference at first, but after 15-20 miles . . . pretty awesome
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cool let us know what you think. didn't notice the difference at first, but after 15-20 miles . . . pretty awesome
Absolutely agree with you. Engagement seems smoother and certainly quieter. Expensive but worth it I think.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:54 AM
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I used 2 quarts of Honda authorized transmission fluid...I was kind of scared to venture outside the box. I can say that I do use syncromesh trans fluid on my turbo civic and it made a night and day difference.
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Changed the fluid in the transmission and differential today, as it was a bit overdue and certainly nice enough outside to do it.

The diff went as easy as it usually does, but damn...those bolts on the transmission would not break! In my memory of doing this a few times before, these plugs have always been a bitch, but today just seemed absurd. After a short but strenuous effort, I was no longer in a mood to deal with it.

So, I finally found a great use for a scissor jack. Worked like a charm...I highly recommended it if you ever have the same trouble.

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Pretty clever Jim. My only comment would be I would certainly want to use it with my body outside the perimeter of the cars' body. If the tranny bolt is that tight the car might come off the jackstand before it broke loose and then as it drops back onto the stands falls to the ground. Being smashed by your S will ruin your day.........
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The jackstands stayed in the shed for this job; I decided to simply drive the car's two left wheels onto a couple of short 2x8's, stacked atop one another. Since I'm parked on a crowned street, this makes the car almost perfectly level, and gives me "just" enough room to get under the car. The break point for the bolts was very easy; just a slight "ping" without much drama.

Although next time I do this, I'll likely add a 2x8 at all four corners, to give me a little extra room for a breaker bar (which hopefully won't be needed).

Or, just use a nice flat garage floor and jackstands...
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Was a clever idea.

I wind up changing the diff and transmission every spring. (Because I can!) Guess it keeps the bolts from becoming frozen in place as I certainly torque them to the correct values. I also drive the front end up on 2X6s so I can slip my Costco jack under the lip and put the thing on 4 jack stands. Then my anality takes over and I wind up wiping various parts underneath of the road dust so it looks all nice in places no one will ever see until I look again next year. Perhaps the fact my garage is carpeted in nice indoor/outdoor carpet makes it fun to crawl around. (The carpet came out of a legal office redo my builder was doing so I did my shop and garage wall to wall. Really keeps the house clean from me and the dogs too)
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One of the downsides with the S is the front end is soooo damn low I can't get the floor jack under it. My fix was to buy a 2x12x8', I cut two 30" pieces and two 18" pieces, I overlayed the shorts on top of the longs and then drew a line from the high point 12"s in to the low end and used a circular saw to cut the wedge. That gave me two 3" wood ramps, just enough to let me get the floor jack under the front when I want to get her up for oil changes, which I will be doing next weekend.
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CDK, you cut a 2x12 diagonally with a circular saw?!? Unless I'm missing something, I can't imagine how you did that!
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do it from both sides then use a crosscut handsaw to cut the middle section the circular saw can't get to. Of course if I had a 12" circular saw I could have done it in the two passes...........
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I used my De Walt crosscut to angle the leading edge of 2 2X6s about 2' long. I only use then for the front wheels. Plenty of width for the tires. Just enough for jack clearance to reach the center engine jack point. When I am done, I back up to remove the wood. I have a little rolled duct tape to make them not slide when I drive up.
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I tacked a piece of 1x2 across the front to keep me from rolling over the front edge. Back end if fine, you have plenty of room to get the floor jack under the diff.


I'll take a pic when I do the oil change later in the week. This afternoons job is to replace the carpeted 2x4 bunks on the jet boat trailer--------a job I have been putting off.
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Nice Jim!
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Pretty cool trick using a jack Jim, especially working under the car.
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Old 05-04-2016, 03:11 PM
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I always use Honda transmission fluid.
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