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Old 07-06-2012, 06:39 PM
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Smoking Issue

Ok guys I need a little help. On my 01 at high rpm I tend to get a lot of white smoke. I'm running an invidia test pipe but it shouldn't smoke that bad with just a test pipe right? Like I said it really only happens when I'm in Vtec. My brother is convinced it's because I use royal purple oil. Any suggestions to why I'm getting this smoke at high rpm's and what to do to fix it?
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:52 PM
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should have just listened to me in the first place!!!
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:57 PM
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You may have a blown headgasket, are you adding water fairly regularly? Is it smoke or steam? The exhaust will have a slightly sweet smell from the coolant if it's your head gasket. The other possibility is you have a valve seal(s) issue, get a compression/leak down test asap.
If it truly is smoke, I would try adjusting the valves and check your retainers in combination with the comp./leakdown test.
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Old 07-07-2012, 01:25 PM
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I'm not having to add coolant so it must be the valve seal.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:09 AM
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May be you are filling your exhaust tips with water, and you daily wash your car,

Daily fillling them with water, so this is happening!!!!!

White smoke is nothing but water.....

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Old 07-08-2012, 08:12 AM
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What does it smell like? Is it sweet smelling or oil or nothing??

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Old 07-08-2012, 10:04 AM
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Sweet smelling will mean an antifreeze leak, so most likely a head gasket.
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Old 07-08-2012, 03:50 PM
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most people can't tell the difference between white and blue smoke.

if it's puffing out smoke once you hit vtec, it's oil smoke. mine does the same and put down like 250psi on all 4 cylinders doing a compression test.
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Old 07-08-2012, 05:56 PM
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I find it odd that it only happens during Vtec operation. As I understand Vtec everything stays the same except that the cam profile changes to allow more fuel and exhaust thru-put. If it were something like a head gasket seal it seems it would show up long before your rpms got to Vtec range. Is it losing power? At what rpm? Does acceleration feel different? At what rpm range?
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Old 07-08-2012, 06:19 PM
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Well, my last post probably won't help any more (or less) than this one:

Smoke is white,
oil purple.
Vtec colors
make a swirl.
Check it out.
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It smells like oil burning and now it does it sometimes at an idle like at a stop light. Only for a couple seconds then stops. Any ideas?
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Old 07-11-2012, 08:59 PM
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I have an idea....Listen to me more often.
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Old 07-11-2012, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kingstarlet View Post
I have an idea....Listen to me more often.
Gotta love sibling rivalry.
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He never listens to me...lol i try to guide him in the right direction but he always learns the hard way.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:09 PM
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I vote for valve seals. Royal Purple is impressive stuff, and I wouldn't put anything else in mine.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kingstarlet View Post
He never listens to me...lol i try to guide him in the right direction but he always learns the hard way.
Could you tell us what you said that "he" didn't listen to and why that would have saved him from this problem. Seems like everyone else is just wasting time and imagination when you already know the answer. Please save us with your preventive advice not listened too.

It is kinda funny, must admit
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LOL I just don't believe in royal purple motor oil. In my opinion and Guys I know with 8 and 9 sec hondas royal purple is a great tranny and diff lube but to put in a motor seems to always kill the valve seals on hondas. There is a reason that the factories that make the ZR1 and Mercedes Mclaren and a lot of the Top cars made don't use that oil. Don't you think if Royal Purple was so great they would put it in the fastest production car made?

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Old 07-13-2012, 04:33 AM
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You can determine if an oil is good by what manufacturers put in their super cars. Look at Ferrari, they use Penzoil. And you don't see many people using that.
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Originally Posted by kingstarlet View Post
LOL I just don't believe in royal purple motor oil. In my opinion and Guys I know with 8 and 9 sec hondas royal purple is a great tranny and diff lube but to put in a motor seems to always kill the valve seals on hondas. There is a reason that the factories that make the ZR1 and Mercedes Mclaren and a lot of the Top cars made don't use that oil. Don't you think if Royal Purple was so great they would put it in the fastest production car made?
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You can determine if an oil is good by what manufacturers put in their super cars. Look at Ferrari, they use Penzoil. And you don't see many people using that.
money influences a lot of those decisions guys, don't be naive. if you want to know more about motor oil than you'd ever honestly want to know, hit up the forums over on www.bobistheoilguy.com instead of going by advertisements and hearsay.

hint, this is an advertisement:
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:10 PM
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i figured the issue has to be the valve seals cause by when i ran sea foam through my motor, it must have eaten the seals.
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Vtec_S2K View Post
You can determine if an oil is good by what manufacturers put in their super cars. Look at Ferrari, they use Penzoil. And you don't see many people using that.


S'funny, a few eons ago when you asked a mechanic (they didn't have
techs in those days) what oil was bad, the answer was always Penzoil
followed by Quaker State. They claimed those gave them more business.

Times change!
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oil has been a topic more and more people have been spending time discussing. I'm switching to Amsoil (group 4) on my next change interval but... some people are saying synthetics (group 4) leave a sulfur residue in the engine which can be harmful to the internals. I'm not smart enough to understand that much crap.
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Originally Posted by Vtec_S2K View Post
i figured the issue has to be the valve seals cause by when i ran sea foam through my motor, it must have eaten the seals.

Not unless somebody rebuilt your motor with incredibly cheap seals or you ran a full oil change with it in your crankcase. Seafoam is basically a very light oil. I don't remember the exact proportions but you can make your own by cutting ATF with diesel fuel. It could have removed residue that was helping to seal already worn out seals though.


...what oil was bad, the answer was always Penzoil...
I've killed two motors over the last 45+ years - both where running Penzoil at the time so I never use the stuff anymore.

...some people are saying synthetics (group 4) leave a sulfur residue in the engine which can be harmful to the internals.
Actually, that's reversed, all dino oils still have some residual sulfur- one advantage to synthetics is that all the sulfur can be excluded went it's made.

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^^^good to know
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Old 07-20-2012, 05:40 PM
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Yeah I'm thinking the seafoam cleaned the gunk that helped seal them.
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I've killed two motors over the last 45+ years - both where running Penzoil at the time so I never use the stuff anymore.

I was told at the time that the reason was that Pennsylvania oils were asphalt based, while others were paraffin. That was over 50 yrs. ago so I don't know about today's lubricants.

Some cars were said to have valve problems caused by Shell gas.
Again, I can't verify it.
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^^woa, can someone confirm that Shell gas gives you valve problems?
Shell is the only gas I put in my S..
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Originally Posted by JDMricist View Post
^^woa, can someone confirm that Shell gas gives you valve problems?
Shell is the only gas I put in my S..
Again, that was eons ago. At the time Toyotas were having valve
problems and it was blamed on Shell gas. I doubt that there is a
problem today, or Shell wouldn't be around.
In fact, the major companies supply each other as well as independents.
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Ok well I have had the valve seals replaced (I know its been awhile) I thought everything was fine BUT it smoked again when decelerating to pull in front of my house. What the hell? Any ideas? I had the valve seals replaced and the retainers.
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