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How hard is it to add VSA(traction control) to Ap1?

Old 11-03-2009, 04:59 PM
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How hard is it to add VSA(traction control) to Ap1?

I was looking to add traction control on my s2000 so it will make it easier to drive fast in rainy conditions. I have an 2002 s2000 and i know they dont make the VSA for the ap1 s2000 and they are only offered in the ap2`s. Is it possible to add it on my car? How hard would it be ? and how much would it cost?

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Old 11-03-2009, 05:01 PM
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Hmmm To be honest, You really dont want to be driving fast in the rain lol, It just prevents accidents doesn't make it easier really, I know many guys that have it and don't like it. I would think the crowd of drivers the s2000 attracts would be all for no vsa, but maybe im wrong.
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:58 PM
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honestly... seat time and paying attention to road surface is key. That and knowing YOUR limit and the limit of your tires. I drove in soaking wet conditions with about 30 other S2000s with speeds in excess of 70mph in some spots. (I know kinda taints my rep) but its that that will save you everytime. VSA cant do that. I drive about 30k a year so hey its the best thing to do. Helps you learn... that or if you can find a track day in the rain.
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:18 PM
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wont help you drive fast in the rain lol
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:42 PM
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You'll still hydroplane and lose control if you push it too hard.
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:02 PM
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Best way to get VSA is to buy a my06+ and yes VSA will help your takeoffs on wet roads, but once your car goes sideways, VSA is useless.
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+1 on what everyone else said.

But honestly, I think "adding" the VSC might be a little too complex for us Joe Schmoes. There's a lot of stuff integrated with that system.

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We all drove to S2kdays 08 in Bellterra IA in a torrential rain storm. The windshield wipers couldn't keep up at 80+ mph but the RE-01R's stuck like glue. Others were going even faster and didn't have any problems. The key to driving the S is being smooth on the controls. And when I arrived and wanted to leave the car while I registered they insisted on Vally parking it. I was told to turn around and park in another garage. I revved the engine, grabbed the hand brake and spun a 180 on their wet cobble stone entry way and drove to the other garage. Smooth control no VSA needed.

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Old 11-03-2009, 07:43 PM
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I have VSA in my 00. Its called good use of feet.
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:46 PM
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Driving School and SLOWING DOWN ... Jackie Ickx you ain't. None of us will ever be that good in the wet, so chill because the S2000 will not suffer fools, especially wet fools behind the wheels and the ears.
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:30 PM
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If you have to ask about it to help you drive in the rain, it won't help.
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:43 PM
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Hey Sal! IMO, the tires are the best way to go for aiding control in the rain.
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:21 PM
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Slow down when it rains.
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Old 11-04-2009, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by D1sclaimer View Post
I have VSA in my 00. Its called good use of feet.
The same was said about ABS when it was first introduced....
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Racelogic makes one that works on an S.

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Originally Posted by J'sS2K View Post
Slow down when it rains.
I dont... =] only in certain areas really...

and I dont need abs either... or air bags or any of this other "stupid proof crap" this babied socity it expecting everyone else to protect them from their idiocy.
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MutantCheese View Post
Invincibility isn't one of my superpowers just yet...
I have driven 300,000+ miles in only like 9 years never a crash. Maybe its where I drive not alot of people and I stay away from people. I stick it with seat belts but thats all I want. vsa abs air bags crumble zones now we have smart cruise control and cars that tell you when you get out of your lane.... just letting us get lazier and lazier. Face it the S is really one of the hardest cars yet... but still extreamly safe. Just sick of everyone wanting to protect me.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:02 AM
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My point is, that while you don't think that you need these safety features, they are saving lives. Your 300,000 miles of safe driving only puts you at a higher statistical risk of an accident in the future. Don't knock technology and the safety features that we have on modern cars. Lazy or professional driver alike have survived serious accidents that they would have surely perished in 30 years ago.
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True they save lives no doubt about that. But we are letting something else think for us and take the responsibility of our mistakes. Thats the America we live in today. People will take more chances mindlessly not thinking just because they expect someone else to cover for their mistakes. A little fear never did to much harm. But yeah I wont get the popular vote on this I know that.
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i found this kit for VSA on an ap1
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:23 AM
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I agree with what everyone else has said. Traction control or not, driving fast in the rain would not be high on my list of things to do and I wouldn't recommend it.

Here are the people that sell a traction control system for the S http://www.racelogic.co.uk/. Last time I saw a thread on this I beleive it was around $1000.

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Originally Posted by lonestarbuzz View Post
i found this kit for VSA on an ap1
ow buzz thats hitting below the belt...

hmm thats an idea for a new quote for AP1 drivers....

AP1 drivers have *****...
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I live in Oregon. It rains from October to May, I put the car in the garage and wait 'til spring. Unless of course we get sunny days like today . . . whooo hooo!

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I think it's kind of silly to say that you wouldn't want crumple zones, air bags, ABS, and VSA. I'm certainly glad we can turn VSA off, and honestly, I could live just fine without it. But for the crumple zones & air bags, I'm very glad to have them. I don't want an engine block landing on my lap, and I don't want to collapse my skull on the steering wheel either. As for ABS, some REALLY REALLY REALLY good drivers might actually be better off without it, but for the rest of us non-superhumans, it's a performance & safety benefit. I just hope I never get to try out all these safety features...I'll take Honda's word for it that they work
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Originally Posted by TheSoundMan21 View Post
ow buzz thats hitting below the belt

Literally.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:38 PM
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I think it's kind of silly to say that you wouldn't want crumple zones, air bags, ABS, and VSA. I'm certainly glad we can turn VSA off, and honestly, I could live just fine without it. But for the crumple zones & air bags, I'm very glad to have them. I don't want an engine block landing on my lap, and I don't want to collapse my skull on the steering wheel either. As for ABS, some REALLY REALLY REALLY good drivers might actually be better off without it, but for the rest of us non-superhumans, it's a performance & safety benefit. I just hope I never get to try out all these safety features...I'll take Honda's word for it that they work
You know after some thought its not so much the safety features im upset with... as much as I am the people who use it as an excuse not to pay attention to the road more like they should.
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Trolls are people too and besides, I think that we successfully hijacked this thread for our our selfish gain.
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Hey Sal, I don't want to sound like a d&%k, but if you want to drive fast in the rain, do it at a racetrack where the ONLY person being put in danger is yourself and not some innocent bystander who was being careful doing the speed limit and got plowed into by someone who lost control thinking they were the new rain master of Formula 1.

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True they save lives no doubt about that. But we are letting something else think for us and take the responsibility of our mistakes. Thats the America we live in today. People will take more chances mindlessly not thinking just because they expect someone else to cover for their mistakes. A little fear never did to much harm. But yeah I wont get the popular vote on this I know that.

while you you may lose the experienced driver vote, you have a lock on the ..... well, nevermind.
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