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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
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S2000 '01 vs. '03 dilemma
Greetings all,
I am new to this forum and the Honda S2000 world at large. I am currently in the middle of a purchase decision and hope you guys can help me out with it. Carmax has two S2000s I am interested in: (a) Silver with black interior 2001 with 65k miles on it. (b) Blue with blue interior 2003 with 23k miles on it. At first glance the obvious choice is (b) newer with lower miles etc. The issue is (b) is USD$2000 more and honestly that extra is a bit of a stretch for me. I know Honda's are famous for their reliability and VTEC engines are pretty bulletproof. That being said, I am calling on your expertise to assist me with this. Is (a) going to cause me major problems out of the gate (electrics failure, major replace parts needed soon, plastic rear window a pain in the ass, etc.?) Does 2003 have major improvements over 2001 that are a big deal? ex. the rear glass w/ defroster over the pastic one Cheers lads, Blair Last edited by bgwdivemaster; 07-03-2009 at 12:50 PM. |
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 30
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the 03 is better glass window, nice color,only proplem i had with my car was auto tensioner, and 3 gear started grinding,great car i love mine only needs to be turboed
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 94
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On face value I would probably go with the 03 just because newer and less miles. Having said that, if the 65k miles were light and it was garage kept and the 23k miles were hard with tracking and not garage kept then I would of course flip that choice. The only S2000 that stands out in consumor reports is the 2004 but I don't think anyone knows why that year in particular has a higher rating. All have great track records though and this is a great sports car in any year. Pure fun to drive. You said there was a 2000 dollar difference. Offer what you want to pay and see what they say. When I bought mine the price on the window was about 4000 more than I offered and eventually paid. Car dealers need to move cars and the S2000 is a nitch car, not as easy to move as the more family friendly cars. If you are ready to buy, you may find that the dealers are very ready to work with you, especially in the used car market. I also just recently bought my daughter a college car. Dealer was having a hard time moving it because it was a stick-shift. I checked car fax and saw the miles on it when they got it and the miles on it 3 months later when I looked at it. The difference was 4 miles. I pointed that out to them, that no one was looking at it and they accepted my offer, a really great deal.
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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it's a no brainer man...03 FTW!!!
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I would definitely go with the '03. The miles and the glass rear window alone would be worth it to me (unless like stated earlier you find out something bad about the '03s history). Plus, the Suzuka Blue with Blue int. is definitely more rare, and might help your resale value in the future. That is if you can HANDLE all that blue! lol
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Modesto, CA
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I would check carfax on one or both. perhaps that might help the decision process.
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Varietas Delectat
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Naples Fl
Posts: 148
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Besides a glass window the 03 also has other advantages. More refined suspension, oil jet bolt fix, tweeters in the doors, a better console cover and several tsb fixes done on earlier model years. The 02 and 03's were known for making an additional 5hp on the dynos over the 00 and 01's.
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Resident Curmudgeon
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Joisey
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Carfax'z'a plus, but oddz are (provided they've both been left stock)they're both just barely broken in.
Not bein' able'da kick the tirez, itt'z all guesstimation, but I'd suspect that you'd be happy with either. (But the '03 duzz have some advantagez iff itt'z not gonna break the bank.) Good luck.
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I have an 03 and the only gripe I have is the soft top tearing in the corners. Check that out first I have been quoted $1500 for a new top installed. OUCH!
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Help much appreciated. The '01 is being transfered up to the Carmax near me so I'll take a look at it first hand. Carfax wise they are both perfect but from the feedback though it looks like I might need to find the $2000 for the '03.
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03 no question 2 grand for 40k less miles and 2 years newer. Shouldnt even be a question unless the 03 looks beat compared to the 01
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Senior Member, Literally
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: woodland hills, CA
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Not a good time of year to get a deal on drop tops. At the end of summer dealers are more prone to deal. I think you might be able to get it down to a thousand dollar difference if you tell them that's all you can afford.
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: arlington
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dude, the $2000 is NOT because of miles/years, its because it is Suzuka, which is clearly the best and fastest color available. you have to buy the Suzuka.
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 116
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If that's a problem you might want to go with A or reconsider the S altogether. While the S is a reliable Honda maintenance still isn't cheap. You'll want some cash onhand for summer tires, alignments, etc etc.
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: dallas
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$2k = $40 more a month
is $40 a month really stretching it?
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ontario
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If you don't hurry up and decide what you want ...........they could be gone.......tis the season !
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RedAt8
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Glendale, CA
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Suzuka is the fastest color so go with that one.
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chula Vista, CA
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I thought "girlie men" only drove suzuka blue...lol
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awesome
Join Date: May 2008
Location: arlington
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it's funny you mention that, vez. i know a good amount of guys who drive suzukas on the boards. but whenever i see one, it's always an old lady. that makes me sad. if i won the lottery, i would buy all those suzukas from those women and give them to men. manly men, too, like lumberjacks.
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RedAt8
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Glendale, CA
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hey hey hey suzuka is not for girlie men
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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can you not finance half or more of it then? you've obviously got the cash to almost buy the 03 outright... buy it with a huge down payment and pay it off in a few months?
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"Enjoy the drive"
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Kuna Idaho
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I would go with the '03.
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: woodland hills, CA
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 9
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if $2k is pushing it i would recommend u go somewhere else.....i got my 03 with 46K on it with a warranty and clean carfax for under $16k...i looked at carmax to see what they price it for and i saw a 04 with 43k on it and it went for $17500+ and carmax is "no haggle" which means no negotiating...so i would keep looking...
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